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Poster: Driftin N Dreamin Date: Sep 7, 2007 3:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

I consider myself to be a pretty dedicated deadhead and I own 15-20 of the live releases and dvds that have been put out since Jerry died, so by no means have I bought everything.

Having read the posts below about Rhino, I'm curious to see how many of you who complain about the "lack" of new shows coming out, have actually put your money where your mouth is and bought every cd/dvd etc release when they came out?? My guess is very few, but I may be wrong.

If you haven't done so, then how can you complain that there is not enough out there?

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Poster: dogsinapile! Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

Through the years I have bought several commercial releases - both studio and live, but I by no means do I have everything they have ever put out. I still buy the occasional Dick's Picks that I don't have and am always on the lookout for new releases. I did buy "Live at the Cow Palace" and "Three From The Vault".
That being said, I am of the opinion that stuff that is released commercially should be purchased, not traded around. I was a big tape collector back in the day and even became a taper myself. (Still have those 2000 or so cassettes and DATS). That background made me appreciate the opportunity to be able to tape shows - Grateful Dead or otherwise. So I do not agree with copying commercial releases of any band. Most probably don't agree with me, but that is how I approach it.

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Poster: JamminJerome Date: Sep 7, 2007 5:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

I think most people think like you about the commercially released stuff. I mean, hey, we've got so much free stuff available to us, why seek out the released stuff for free?

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Poster: dogsinapile! Date: Sep 7, 2007 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

It is nice to hear that someone agrees. I just don't feel right copying a commercially released CD. It feels like stealing. All the other stuff is fair game though.
But here is something interesting... Whenever I have taped an artist that is opposed to taping, I don't feel bad about it. I guess I justify it by knowing that I will never make anything off of it...

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Poster: aaron54de Date: Mar 14, 2008 11:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

I actually agree with you completely. Released albums should not be passed around. They should be purchased and savored, inside and out--music and packaging.

Most of us have refurbished our record collections, purchasing the same album numerous times over our lives. Now, I don't have a problem with that at all. New technology has made it exciting enough to go through that financially cumbersome transformation.

What I did have a problem with is CD's costing more than cassettes, when we knew the production costs were much less. And I have a severe problem with iTunes and other downloads costing even more than a CD might, when we all know the production cost of that is nil and the packaging is non-existent (not to mention the DRM involved). I also have a problem with record companies suing grandmothers and toddlers, college kids and parents for simply trying to get as much as they can of what the companies are pushing.

Music is worth as much an artist can get for it. But the middlemen have always taken advantage of us--the consumer AND the artist--and distorted the value of musical worth. I'd freely give half my salary each year to the musical, literary and theater artists that inspire me and help get me through each day.

Now that Rhino has pretty much alienated the fanbase and destroyed the values of the most unique rock n roll band in history, I'll probably never give a cent to a record company ever again. Let the bands represent themselves, and they'll get whatever they want from me.

So...while I still can, I'm going to download whatever I can, officially released or not, because I'm an opportunistic mutha f&*#er and I'm personally tired of being taken advantage of. I would suggest you all buck the current system and do the same.

Check this out, though the concept talked about seems to have finally fallen:
http://www.strategy-business.com/press/16635507/9095

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 7, 2007 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

because jerry peered out at me over the rim of his glasses at the greek one night and said, and I quote, "Bluedevil, I'm done with that note I just played. It's yours to have for all eternity in any format you desire - along with all the other notes I've ever played or even thought. And by the way, it's all free." Then he forgot the lyrics to the next verse.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 7, 2007 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

LOL! Awesome man.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 7, 2007 3:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

HA HA HA HA . . . .

. . . HA HA HA . . .

. HA HA . . . . HA . . . . HA . . . wait a minute, did somebody just dis Jerry?

No matter, I have a sneezing cat next to me---AAAUUGH!!! CAT SNOT----RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!

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Poster: shirley oldschool Date: Sep 7, 2007 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

bluedevil, I think jerry was checking out the chick beside you.

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Poster: Betty Slobaknob Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

I think ol Jerr may have checkin' you out SHIRLEY. You prolly had a grate rack 20 years ago.

This post was modified by Betty Slobaknob on 2007-09-07 23:31:48

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Poster: shirley oldschool Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

it's shirley you shanky slobknobber.

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Poster: Betty Slobaknob Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

Why you getten so testes with me?

Testes, testes 1... 2...

...3?

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Poster: huntr Date: Sep 7, 2007 3:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

dont see me complaining .. between this place when it had SBDs and even now for late AUDs ... GDLive till it dropped .. and Torrents .. Ive been up to my ass in more shows than I know what to do with

the only thing Ive bought recently was the Fillmore West 1969 box set

This post was modified by huntr on 2007-09-07 22:34:39

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

Having discovered the archive and gdstore around the same time, I reasoned that out of respect for a band that had allowed so much sound to be traded for free, I should buy every commercial release that I would listen to if it were available for free.

Since then, I have indeed bought every HDCD GD release in the 1965-1978 range (except Rare Cuts and Oddities, which became unavailable before I got around to getting it, and a couple of 71/72 releases with too little jamming for my taste, which I will probably pick up eventually). I've followed the same policy for JGB up to 1980. I've also bought many of the non-HDCD GD releases, but I'm holding off on the ones I haven't yet bought in the vain hope that they will be re-released in HDCD like 1ftV and 2ftV were.

Since you asked...

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Sep 7, 2007 8:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

my store bought shit is as follows, i'm sure it's missing items

cow palace
1,2,3 from vault
go to nassau
fillmore east 71 (ladies and gents)
2/11/69
england 72
europe 72
live dead
skullfuck
american beauty
workingmans
anthem
first album
wake
reckoning
dead set
dickd pick vols: 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 14, 35, 36, 24, 22, 19, 18, 23, 26,
aoxomoxoa
phil zone
old and in the way
terrapin
go to heaven
booze for allah

i plan on getting most of the dicks picks series, unless someone wants to trade w/me. just kidding, really.

i'd say i done my best to get bobby his new guitars

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Poster: veblen Date: Sep 7, 2007 9:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

mcgannahan's is basically my list as well, though I have a few more Dicks Picks and just about all of the download series (a series that I liked and miss). I cringed the last time I looked at my download record at dead.net, but it could be much, much worse; and I do enjoy it all.